Ted Nugent
Crime And Punishment


PART TWO: LAW AND ORDER

CREEM: Did you see Death Wish?

NUGENT: Yeah, I loved that. Oh, loved it. But I was too close to it. I didn't believe in it as a movie, I believed in it as a social reality.

CREEM: Well, it's "Stormtroopin'."

NUGENT: That's "Stormtroopin' " in a fuckin' nutshell. Independence. Standing up for something. Did you see on the last album I thanked Bernie Goetz?

CREEM: How did you feel about him getting six months?

NUGENT: I think it sucks. I think it sucks. And anybody who thinks that he was wrong is a complete asshole and a victim of the Special Olympics of modern society. The typical human being is in a Special Olympics mode of life. I think it's deplorable. I think it's a typical case of the world turned upside down, that we live in. That justice does not exist and that what's right and wrong is upside fuckin' down.

He shoulda shot those four cocksuckers dead. And he shoulda been given an award. Period. Get them cocksuckers outta the gene pool. Get 'em fuckin' outta here. The society we live in now has pampered and promoted predatorship in man's world.

The left are obviously mentally retarded. People actually came out and criticized him for blowing these dirty cocksuckers away and tried to put them on a pedestal, saying they were victims. When they were vicious, evil, preying bastards that have mutilated, hurt and ruined lives. And they tried to say that these poor little savages were victimized by Bernie, defending him-fuckin'-self.

Did I miss something?

The only guy that didn't continue preying on society was the one who was paralyzed! And if he wasn't paralyzed, he'd been right out there fucking with people. You know that! Who could possibly defend these cocksuckers?

I mean, we are alive, we are working, and we are earning our way and we are getting from point A to point B and these motherfuckers step in our way and they take our lives and they mutilate us and they rape our people and they rape our children and they ruin our lives and mutilate our psyches…

What are we sup… May I suggest we eliminate them? May I suggest that when we encounter them we are not unarmed like the fucking feeble Canadians who aren't even allowed to be trusted with fucking guns but, rather, we have a gun and we say:

"Oh, my wallet? You want my wallet? I've worked my fucking ass off to earn this cash and you want it on a whim? KA-FUCKIN'-POW, motherfucker!"

One more outta the fuckin' system. Get him the fuck… Mulch him, put him in a blender, pour him on my garden and enhance my veggies. Get him the fuck outta the gene pool. Do not let him fuckin' multiply.

Right now the asswipes are being flowed outta the prisons, they're fuckin', they're having babies, and their babies are fucked. Half the people in the world—I don't even care how you edit this—half the fucking people in the world don't even know who their fucking parents are. They go out and they learn a life of fuckin' deceit, deception, robbery and fuckin' viciousness and they're given:

"Well, he only killed three people, we'll put him on parole."

Fuck the parole officer, fuck the guy who did it, fuck everybody who's got any of his fuckin' bloodline. Cocksuckers are preying on us.

CREEM: Don't forget the judges.

NUGENT: Fuck the judges, man. Blow them cocksuckers right away. I really have a horrible pent-up… But man, what, 40 cents out of every dollar I make goes to support these pieces of shit? And a system that will not protect you and me…

And we're gonna get a speeding ticket, we're gonna get busted at the border for not having our zipper all the way up but, meanwhile, these cocksuckers are pillaging the earth. They're out on the fucking street 'cause there's not enough bed with the proper amount of cushion on it in the jail for them!

Did I miss something? Is this upside-fucking-down? The left can suck my dead dog's dick. When it gets right down to it, society needs to be exposed to more justice.

There was mother in Chicago in 1983 or '84. This nine year old little girl had been raped by this guy twice before and she knew he did it, and they knew he did it, but they couldn't get the little girl…she was so panic-stricken they couldn't get her to testify. So the mother said, "Can I make a statement, your Honor, on the record?" And he goes, "Well, it's out of order but, yeah, go ahead." And she walked over, she walked up to this guy who was handcuffed, she took out a .45 and emptied the fucking clip on him. Killed him dead. They pressed charges but it was thrown out of court.

I mean, fuck these people, man. It's ugly, and it's not right, but it's necessary.

Bernie Goetz shouldn't've just plugged them with a .38, he shoulda fuckin' hosed 'em down with some good ammo and killed those cocksuckers. We don't need those people, man. They cost us, and I'm not talking about cash now, I'm talking lives and emotion and pain and fear. Society in general is pretty fucking vicious. And, basically, the vicious people are getting more vicious and the wimps are getting more wimpy.

CREEM: What's the worst city for that?

NUGENT: Oh, take your pick, any hour of the day. I mean, New York's got plenty of action. Detroit isn't more violent than anybody else, we just shoot a little better. See, back then they thought we were all hippies. Meanwhile, these asswipe fucking hippies, the MC5 and all those pieces of dog shit, had their guns and revolution. They were fake fuckin' guns and they were out smokin' dope and eating brown rice. Fuck these fuckin' hippies. I was not a hippie.

Criminals have the red carpet laid out for them. "Take us, no resistance here." Meanwhile, they outta blow him a-fuckin'-way, piece by piece. Man, do I believe in that. Boy, do I believe in that. Look at what happened to Bernie. Crime didn't go down that week, it vanished. There was not one… Those kind of confrontations, what'd they figure there were? One every four hours or something on that one subway until Bernie shot the four pieces of shit? And then it didn't go down…it vanished for two fucking weeks. Until they brought charges against the son of a bitch and all of a sudden the criminals went: "Yeah, they're protecting us, let's start over again."

Did I miss something here?

Shoot the cocksuckers, shoot 'em regularly, and they will find a new line of fuckin' work, I guaran-fuckin'-tee it. I'm not talkin' about any potential scenario, I'm talkin' about what is black and fuckin' white. Shoot the cocksucker and he ain't gonna rob you again. Period. If he robs you, put him in jail for a long fuckin' time and beat him pretty often. And I guarantee you when he gets out—if we decide to let him out—he ain't gonna try that shit again.

Canada is a great case in point. I don't bring my gun to Canada. I stop at the state police post on the U.S. side and I give 'em my .44.

"Would you guys hold this for me while I go to this Communist country?" (laughter)

Yet they allow you to bring shotguns in but not a hand gun. So I leave my .44 at the border and I bring a 12 gauge shotgun, no problem.

Let's get after the bad guys. Please focus on the bad guys.

CREEM: Too many people are getting too many rights in this world.

NUGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely. Too many of the wrong people are getting the wrong rights.

CREEM: And all the wrong ones are walkin'.

NUGENT: You bet. I mean, how dare they send these vicious, heinous criminals back on the streets because they're out of beds? Or because they forgot to read him his rights as they pulled his knife out of the little girl's chest? CHRIST! There's a general right and wrong premise that we should all function under, and that is gone in the wind.

CREEM: Do you ever wonder what the hell is going on?

NUGENT: Oh, I'm constantly wondering what the hell's going on because this is not the world that I would have.

CREEM: It's not the world you started out in, that's for sure.

NUGENT: No, it isn't. Not at all. It's mostly crime and evil oriented.

CREEM: A lot of people don't seem to have a good grip on separating reality from fantasy.

NUGENT: I'll buy that shit. I'm sure of that. I bought some stuff from a drug store where she didn't know how to work the cash register. Ineptness is promoted in the world, there's no doubt about it. "You don't have to be qualified, here's your job." (laughs) I hate to be so fucking critical of people but…

I'll tell you where our society is at… (sighs) God help us all.

There are packs of wild dogs around the country that spread disease. We had a bus stop situation here last year near my home in Michigan where a little girl, a nine year old girl, was mauled by a pack of dogs. And they were all Fido and Fifi, they all had collars on, they all had Alpo breath. And they attacked the kids at the bus stop and mauled this little girl.

In pack form, they revert to their wild instincts. They suck down the Ken-L Ration at night and when the people go to bed they go roam out and they kill deer and they kill game and they attack kids at bus stops.

Well, the animal control officer came back, they found the pack of dogs, but he said: "I couldn't get close enough for the net." So meanwhile, at the cost of mauled children, you don't shoot 'em for public image?

Shoot the fuckin' dogs, I'll shoot 'em!

CREEM: Sounds like the pit bull problem.

NUGENT: Yeah! Fuck, shoot the cocksuckers! Why does everybody think everything is so…

CREEM: Sacred.

NUGENT: (laughs) Give me a fuckin' break! Fido's sacred as long as he sits in your lap and wags his tail. When he starts molesting kids and attacking them at bus stops, blow him a-fuckin'-way.

CREEM: Do you meet a lot of people who think that you're a moron?

NUGENT: No one's ever told me that. (laughter) But I'm sure there's plenty out there who do. I'm sure of it.

CREEM: Do you always open up like this in all your interviews?

NUGENT: No, I don't. I was told that you were a big supporter of mine, and that you were aware of my career. That you weren't one of these fuckin' defense mechanism assholes that was looking for a contest in every statement I make. So I have opened up.

Quite honestly, my interviews do not come across in print. Most of the jive you read are fictional quotes. I don't know where they fuckin' get this stuff. I'm an intense individual and, like I said, I'm my own worst enemy 'cause unless you're sitting here with me...

I'm sure that you have no question about any of my statements tonight. I'm sure that I have made myself perfectly clear. But I also guarantee that if you attempt to quote me in print, no one will have a clue. I guaran-fuckin'-tee it. Because it's not black and white. What I'm saying is black and white. What I believe is what I believe. But in print, it loses…

CREEM: The emotion?

NUGENT: Certainly. And certainly where I'm coming from. You know what I mean? It ain't gonna happen. The only way it'll happen is if someone does more of a commentary. It you try quotin' me, it'll come off… (pauses) It'll come off funny… (laughs) They're always funny. But the essence is gone with the fuckin' wind.

But I still conduct interviews because I genuinely enjoy interplay. And I genuinely enjoy communication; that's one of the reasons why I make music. And it's one of the reasons why I'm more than glad to voice my opinions and my commitments to you because I'm proud of them. I believe that they are well learned. And I believe that I am cognizant of situations and conditions in this world that I have formed opinions on. And I don't think I am casual about them, I think I'm very sincere about them. And I would like that that would be conveyed, 'cause I can enjoy it when someone is sincere.

When I read that someone makes a statement, and I believe in it, I like that person.